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Backgrounder: a transatlantic collaboration

January 23rd, 2012 by Reinder

Remasters on Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan continue at a slow but mostly steady pace. We have now reached the update for May 14, 2004, which had backgrounds by Yonaka Yamako. If we were to do that now, we'd probably have sent digital files back and forth, and worked entirely digitally, but back then, neither of us was comfortable doing that. Here's what I wrote about the process at the time:

In an effort to catch up with Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan's schedule without compromising the art quality, I asked Yonaka to do some backgrounds for me. She'd done this once before, and that was very satisfactory indeed. Working over the Internet meant I could get the page to and from Georgia (the U.S. state, not the former Soviet Republic), but at a price. This is a scaled version of the scanned page that I sent to Yonaka. I put it on a web server and emailed her the URL plus instructions. I told her I wanted a realistic rendition of the space the scene was set in in all panels except the third and fourth, which should feature a historical narrative rendered in wood carving style, ca. 1000 AD. Yonaka knows from carving, and she knows her history, but I sent her a reference from a Norwegian stave church portal anyway.
Black and white line art without background

Black and white line art without background. Click to enlarge

Yonaka simply prints the scanned page out on an inexpensive inkjet printer. The line quality suffers somewhat in this process, but because the scans are high-res to begin with, it doesn't really show in the final result, at least not on the Web. I may run into trouble if I try to make a print version, though. Yonaka then simply drew the background in pencil, on the print-out. It's really low-budget. Because the third panel was so much work, she posted the an intermediate version of the page on her website for me to check out, before continuing with panel 4. The third panel is in pencil, with pencil shading. The other panels, however, are in ink.
Line art with Yonaka's backgrounds

Line art with Yonaka's backgrounds. Click to enlarge.

Once I'd approved panel 3, which I did quite enthusiastically, Yonaka drew the background for panel 4. It's looking quite crowded now...
Final backgrounds including the fourth panel.

Final backgrounds including the fourth panel. Click to enlarge.

The final colored artwork, without the lettering. I didn't have to do much on panels 3 and 4. Even a flat color over the entire area brought out the relief in Yonaka's drawings.
Digital colours by me, as done in 2004.

Digital colours by me, as done in 2004. Click to enlarge.

After that, the page got its lettering, and with that done, the page was flattened (i.e. all the layers were reduced to a single layer), scaled to web size and posted. Eight years later, I revisited it as part of the remaster project, and this gives me an opportunity to show what sort of changes I've made. This is what the artwork looks like now, when its at the same stage as in the previous image, coloured but not lettered:

Artwork with 2012 revisions

Artwork with 2012 revisions by me. Click to enlarge.

As you can see, in this case, changes are slight. Maghreid' hair is recoloured, a number of small lines are removed, some small areas of colour that had been skipped over have been filled in, and most significantly, Maghreid's eyes now have pupils where they were originally blank areas of green. I think it's the last bit that made the most difference. This is what it's like with most of the pages. Very little is redrawn - all the time goes into cleanup an restoration.

Social media bar on ROCR.net

October 28th, 2011 by Reinder

Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan now has a social media bar for easy sharing through Twitter, Facebook etc. My criteria for a social media bar were that it needed to be visually discrete - i.e. no filling the entire width of a screen and no sticking to the bottom as you scroll - customisable and not too free with users' personal data. So far, Add to Any's bar seems to fit the bill. It's easy to install and customise, can be made compact and does not appear to draw its image files directly from Facebook etc's servers.

However, it pays to be vigilant, and I just found this, which I shall fix in an instance. But with that out of the way, the benefits should outweigh the disadvantages. Please let me know if there are other aspects that I need to look into, or if you think there are better alternatives available that fit my criteria better.

Twitter feed for Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan

October 25th, 2011 by Reinder

Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan now has a Twitter feed at RoguesClwydRhan. I'm spectacularly late to the party. Here in a few days I'll try to get an RSS feed working for Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan as well.

My plan is to announce comic and websites on there, nothing more, nothing less. I will continue to post them here as well.

My other plan is to do something concrete for the comic every day that my day job sucks. So yesterday I made the feed; today I ...tell people about it through my existing channels. Any step, no matter how tiny, will count, but it has to be completed, so "Working on an update" only counts if an update is finished that day.

Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan update (crossposted to a lot of places)

October 23rd, 2011 by Reinder

I'm not going to claim that I'm nearly ready to start full-scale production again. I've got burned on that too often now. However, the Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan remaster project has picked up some speed. As of today, the latest remaster is the comic for November 3, 2003 ( http://www.rocr.net/index.php?p=20031103 )

The Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan remaster project started in 2006 as a way to upgrade some of the earlier comics from their poorly-scanned, tiny images. Remastered versions of several stories were posted on my DeviantArt site and on the Drunk Duck mirror site for ROCR, but it wasn't until recently that I've started posting new ones on the main site, working both backwards from the end of the story The Corby Tribe and forward from the start of The Rite of Serfdom.

The project has been beset by accidents and hardware failures including the simultaneous failure of both my main and secondary system, located at the time on two different continents, in late 2009, at a time when an earlier incident had caused me to temporarily lose faith in automated back-up software. That faith has since been somewhat restored, but some of the earlier remasters, including much of the work for The Corby Tribe, have already been lost and will need to be redone.

Currently, the remaster process involves work on scans that were high-res, but low bit depth, which at the time were coloured in on the main layer. The gutters and panel borders are cleaned out, then on a new layer, the line art is improved, with particular attention on areas where the low-bit depth lines run into each other, causing areas of the art to become crowded. Sometimes, new detail is added that will be visible on the larger final images. The art is re-lettered, with British spellings now the norm for all pages, and sometimes new word balloons are drawn using Photoshop. In addition, some pages are redrawn entirely from scratch and some characters, particularly Maghreid, Abúi and P'Séaigg are partly redrawn and recoloured nearly every time they appear. Final results are suitable as source images for even higher-res remasters in the future, and for print in the unlikely event that there is real interest. The work is done in 15-minute blocks during the working week, and in longer blocks of time during the weekends.

The remaster project should be complete by the time my wife is ready to work in the Netherlands, by which time I should be able to work fewer hours in my day job and get back to regular production of new work. That could be as early as next year, or as late as 2015.

Sometimes, I have foresight.

May 14th, 2011 by Reinder

I would like to thank my two years younger self for writing such clear instructions on how to install PNGOut on a Mac. My command-line skills, such as they were, have become extremely rusty, but when I needed to install PNGout again, I went from downloading the program to getting the first output written to disk in five minutes. The post also contained my command for batch operations, which I shall quote here again for future reference: for s in *.png;do pngout "$s" pngout/$s;done This will work if you have a subfolder named "pngout" already, and will keep your input files separated from your output.

On a completely related note, I have finally got the redrawn ROCR page for February 02, 2003 uploaded to the website.

Second update on remaster project (pulled from front page)

April 8th, 2011 by Reinder

Top row of page 62 of The Rite of Serfdom, as redrawn by me in March of 2011 and coloured by me and Aggie Janicot.

Top row of page 62 of The Rite of Serfdom, as redrawn by me in March of 2011 and coloured by me and Aggie Janicot.


The remaster project is continuing at a mostly steady pace. Right now, there are some delays as I am redrawing a seven-page sequence of pages and it's taking longer than I anticipated because of the dreaded Real Life Issues. Once we're past that sequence, I will return to adding remastered comics into the archive at a rate of two a day or more again, until I hit the next sequence that needs to be redrawn.

I am unexpectedly psyched by the opportunity to revisit my older work again and draw it the way it should have been drawn in the first place. For some reason, the sequence I am working on now was originally published at a rate of five comics a week, and it shows. The original versions are of noticeably worse quality than the ones surrounding them, and I'll be glad to see them replaced by comics that are noticeably better instead. I am also considering adding the odd page here and there.

Sometimes it does bother me that I am not working on the current story, Feral, but as I said above, the moment I start drawing new pages, delays start to happen, because I simply do not have the time right now to produce good-looking pages at a steady pace. When you add in the added complication of also having to script new material, it becomes even less feasible. Better to keep Feral on the back burner until I can give it my full time and attention.

This is also the reason why I have backed down from doing any special stories to commemorate the twentieth anniversary of Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan this year, as I had considered earlier. Instead, my revised twentieth anniversary plan is to devote more time to fixing everything that is wrong with the ROCR archives. I won't just be remastering most of the artwork and redrawing part of it, but I will also track down all broken links in the archives; in the case of the two big crossovers that the comic has been part of, I will deal with missing comics by crossover partners by redrawing them myself based on their original scripts (if available) and inserting those new versions into the archives. Finally, by the end of 2011 I will modernise the site design itself, taking advantage of new navigation standards that have become common since 2005. Those things alone will keep my busy for a while.

Then, and only then, will I turn to creating new material for the comic. By then, my private life will be considerably more settled than it is now and I will be in a much better place to finish Feral than I am now. And the existing episodes will be that much more awesome.

Continuity colours for redrawn version of The Rite of Serfdom, page 62

March 17th, 2011 by Reinder
The Chairman of the Office of Rites is having a very bad start to his working day. Click to enlarge.

The Chairman of the Office of Rites is having a very bad start to his working day. Click to enlarge.

Partly coloured version of the new art for Page 62 of The Rite of Serfdom. The characters are coloured based on the established character continuity. At this point, I am not entirely sure what to do with the colouring for the backgrounds, but they are greytoned anyway. By adding large flat areas of colour that overlap the line art, I can fill up gaps in the line art and keep things manually. It also helps keeping the background more or less consistent and prevents over-colouring.

If I were to colour a page from a completely new comic, the background colours would be more integrated with the character colours, but in these redrawn pages, character continuity has to be maintained, so their skin tones and costumes are coloured first. Original version

Cleaned-up inks for redrawn version of The Rite of Serfdom, page 62

March 16th, 2011 by Reinder
The Chairman of the Office of Rites is having a very bad start to his working day. Click to enlarge.

The Chairman of the Office of Rites is having a very bad start to his working day. Click to enlarge.

Original version

Raw scan for redrawn version of The Rite of Serfdom, page 62

March 14th, 2011 by Reinder
The Chairman of the Office of Rites is having a very bad start to his working day.

The Chairman of the Office of Rites is having a very bad start to his working day. Click to enlarge.

Original version

Explanation for my latest absense (copied over from comic front page)

January 15th, 2011 by Reinder

Redrawn panel from The Rite of Serfdom, showing Kel, Jodoque, Kangra, Norla and a hoopoe bird

It's been almost three months since the last new episode was posted. I apologize for that, and would like to assure everyone that not only have I not abandoned Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan, but I've actually been very busy for the past month or so; just not on any new material. Instead I've been reviewing and revising the archives, putting up new, higher-quality files for the old comics, fixing link-rot and re-inserting episodes that were lost from the various server moves the comic's been involved in over the past ten years.

Redrawn comic: Kel discusses the Office of Rites

This process has actually been under way for a long time. I started revising episodes from The Faerie and the Earth-Pig onwards back in early 2006, re-scanning material that I created when I did not have the quality of equipment I have now, recoloring them with help from DFG and re-texting them. When I started re-running the comic on Drunk Duck in August of 2007, the pace picked up and I remastered the all of the comics until midway through The Corby Tribe, when I had a series of setbacks and had to give up. Late in 2010, I picked up the project again, and I've been working on it nearly every day since, and in the process, I have redrawn about half a dozen old episodes on top of giving a hundred more a facelift.

Redrawn comic: Wythllew talks of how the Douards used to keep Fire Elves as slaves

The only problem is that until recently, all the results so far have been on Drunk Duck. The only times a remastered image made it to this website were when I discovered a missing strip or when during the work on the old file, I hated the existing images so much that I redrew them. I am working very hard to change that: for the past week, I have uploaded remastered images to the site every day. I am working backwards from the end of The Corby Tribe (which is done but some early work may have been destroyed in those setbacks that I mentioned above and need to be redrawn) and forward from the beginning of The Rite of Serfdom, which I put up as soon as images are done. At the time of writing this, the string of consecutive new versions starts with the comic from August 29, 2002 and ends with the one from November 15, 2002 but the string will be longer before the day is over.

Redrawn comic: Sanderon's account of the theft of the Ancestor's Bone from the shrine

Even the pages that haven't been redrawn are still improved: they are larger, they have had new lettering added and colour faults fixed. In some cases, the colouring has been revised and shading and effects added. None of that will stand out (unlike some of the redrawn art) but it gives the images just a little more oomph. And all of it is now in my working files in Photoshop format at high resolution, so that any further work on them can be done quickly without having to retrace my steps again.

The whole process will take up another year until I'm caught up with the beginning of Feral. I do not intend to leave Feral where it's at for another year - though it might happen. In fact, I plan to spend as much time on Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan as possible, because this is the 20th anniversary of the comic; I started creating it in May 1991 and put out the first small press collection of it a year later. I intend to celebrate that with a lot of new material. But more about that later. For now, this is what I'm focused on, because the site and the archives need it badly.